In most families, stories have been passed down about how families coped with the challenges of the Great Depression. What stories have been passed down in your family? What piques your interest about this time period and what do you hope to learn as we read and discuss these two books?
Social Studies/History Virtual Book Club Great Depression Dust Bowl
My grandparents were very small children when the Great Depression occurred. They did not remember much of the Depression, but they do remember the emotions/feelings during that time period. One set of grandparents lived in Kentucky. The other set lived in Missouri. My grandmother in Kentucky simply remembered the fear surrounding the Depression - when will things get better, why are my parents so worried, etc. She very much remembers her mother (my great-grandmother) not ever trusting banks. So every penny that was earned was hidden in the mattress or in the unmentionables drawer.
None of my great-grandparents had put money into the stock market because there wasn't any extra money to do so. There was a level of suspiciousness and mistrust about other people handling their money. When it came to food, since my great-grandfather from Kentucky was a druggist (now called a pharmacist), he was given extra items for his job specifically. However, my Kentucky family very much got creative with foods like making a birthday cake with applesauce than sugar.
I am interested in this time period because I love stories regarding the American spirit. How did Americans make it through this time period?
Both sets of my grandparents were young newlyweds during the Depression. Neither they nor any close family had money in the stock market...or extra money in general. They came from families that farmed, built, or traded for most of what they needed, and families and neighbors all relied on one another to make ends meet. One set of grandparents were sharecroppers for a farm out towards Dekalb County. They had to scrimp, save, and recycle everything to survive.
My other set of grandparents owned a few rocky acres and a little three room house up in "the holler." All times were hard times, they said, but they made do with what they had. I do remember my grandfather talking about how, at one point, food was so scarce that they had to eat whatever they could find. Grandma learned how to cook groundhog then.
Like Amy, I'm interested in the spirit of the people: their will to survive, love, and live even when it must have sometimes felt like things couldn't get any worse. I'm looking forward to reading more about that spirit of survival and human ingenuity.
My grandmother lived well below the poverty line most of her life. I remember her being very frugal with all of her food and other resources. Always saving things "in case she needed it someday." She never wasted anything. I attributed that to the time she was coming of age during the Depression years.
I am interested to read about experiences during the Depression for rural areas like ours, but especially in the midwest regions that Mr. Egan focuses on. I do find personal memoirs and primary sources of special interest in how intimate you can come to know the people groups or individuals being studied.
Both sides of my family come from a farming background. They all had that mindset of waste not, want not. I can remember family gatherings- leftovers would almost always be put in old ‘Cool Whip’ bowls. Families passed them from one to another, but nothing was ever trashed. This is a hard concept for my generation because we so often want to de-clutter and trash anything that is not a necessity. I know we could really learn a lot from remembering that everything may not always be an Amazon click away.
One of my great grandfathers served in WWII. He died from cancer long before I was born. My father loves to talk about him and share the items that were handed down to him through the family, especially those associated with his military career.
Because of the depression and war, I truly believe that the women in my family showed a mountain toughness that many associate with that Appalachian upbringing. Growing up, the past hardships were not much discussed, probably because hard experiences can be difficult to share. However, the impact it had on both sides of the family was evident. When my mother was born, her family was still using an outhouse. Four children shared one bedroom. My maternal mamaw passed away when I was in high school. My maternal papaw when I was starting my career as a teacher. They never had indoor air conditioning. What they didn’t have in monetary value was always made up for in love and faith.
I think what interests me most about this time in history is the perseverance of those who lived through it, how it impacted them, and how the American spirit was evident in their lives. I hope the books will focus on specific stories of individuals who endured and survived the time. I also want to learn more about the daily fight for survival and making ends meet from different perspectives.
My grandmother still has a whole closet in her house that half of it is dedicated to saving old takeout containers, Cool Whip containers, butter tubs, etc. so that she can package leftovers in them. Any time she goes to that closet I know I'm about to be loaded up with food for the next week!
Haha, I almost wrote about my Grandma Young and her Cool Whip containers!! I was always so disappointed at Thanksgiving or Christmas when I would pull one out of the fridge and it was not full of cool whip for my pie, but instead had random leftovers in it.
She also always referred to the fridge as the "ice box" and I remember my mom having to explain to me what an ice box was! Haha.
My grandparents were both born at the tail end of the Depression and, although they haven’t passed down any stories from their experiences, I can see the effect that it had on their upbringing, especially my grandmother. My grandmother has always held on to anything that she might consider useful at some point. Even though financially they are in a situation where they would be able to afford to purchase something new should the need arise, you can tell that she would prefer to hold on to an item rather than to potentially waste what could be utilized in the future. In addition to saving items that might be of use, food is never wasted and leftovers are always eaten (oftentimes out of the butter tubs turned into food storage). This belief in “hold on to what you have because you never know when you might need it” is something that growing up on the heels of the Great Depression most certainly was instilled in her by family and passed down as she grew up. It is also interesting to me that my grandmother, who grew up in Tennessee, and my grandfather, who grew up in New York, seem to have different experiences passed down from their families. My grandmother grew up a preacher’s kid with eight other siblings while my grandfather grew up a butcher’s kid with two other siblings. As much as my grandmother loves to save what she can, my grandfather has always been somewhat the opposite and would prefer to not worry about storing items in case the need arises because he feels that it does not arise often enough to justify storing things. I know that living in a dirt-floor house in the South was much different than growing up in an apartment in New York City and their differences are fascinating to view, especially in comparison with events like the Great Depression.
I am looking forward to learning more about lived experiences throughout the Great Depression in all parts of the country and seeing what differences there might have been. I’m expecting there to be more in common than differences, but I’d like to see if the region a person lived in had major impacts on experiences during the Depression. I’m excited to read both books, but especially about the food of the Great Depression; I feel like today there are so many different cuisines that vary region to region so I feel like that would have an impact during the Great Depression as well.
Unfortunately, I do not have any stories about the Great Depression from either side of my family. My mom is from the Philippines and migrated to the United States in 1991 with my dad, who was in the Air Force, when Mount Pinatubo erupted. While her parents were born in the 1917 and 1925, they did not share stories about what it was like during the Great Depression other than what was going on during American occupation of the Philippines.
As for my dad's side, I do know that his paternal grandfather was a dairy farmer in Upstate New York and had eight children. His maternal grandparents emigrated from Canada but I do not know what their occupations were.
I am interested in learning more about how the average American lived through such a difficult period of history and how they went about their day-to-day lives.
Kyra Sanchez Clapper , after reading your description of your parents and grandparents, I was curious what the Library of Congress might have that might relate to the Great Depression experiences of members of communities of immigrants from the Philippines. I like using the date search facets (lefthand side) to narrow down the years covered. There sure are lots of photos of field workers from 1930-1940, and I also noticed a number of spelling variations. One resource I ran across seemed to beg for further exploration. It's a newspaper called the Filipino Forum, from Seattle, and it began publication in 1928. Here is the publication description. Some of the mastheads say, unabashedly, "Independent but not Neutral!" It's also interesting to browse through the front pages.
Strangely enough I have never heard any stories about my family during the Great Depression. I say strangely enough because I tend to be an archiver of my family history, or at least my family of husband, sons, and myself. It has been a long time since I dug into any genealogy of my family, but I do know we can trace our history back to Italy, Canada, and America.
Unfortunately, both sets of my grandparents have been deceased for a long time. My dad was from rural Maine a member of a hardworking but lower class family. My mom came from a wealthy family in Cincinnati, Ohio. They met, married, and raised their family in South Florida so I can count the time I have seen my grandparents on one hand. I could ask my parents because I definitely think it's worthy of a conversation.
What piques my interest is stories of survival through the hardships of this period of history.
- Shannon M.
My grandparents were born in the late 1920s and early 1930s in Chicago. My maternal grandmother is still with me (she turned 91 in May!), and she has expressed that her family had a tough time during the Depression. Her father died a few months before she was born, leaving her mother alone and pregnant with her (the first child). They moved in with family to help make ends meet, but things were still very tight and it was hard for her mom to find steady work. The family had to come together to help each other out. This continued throughout my grandma's childhood. For example, my grandma took on a lot of responsibility caring for her younger siblings throughout her life, and even stopped attending high school to start working.
Now, I see my grandma do things that don't always make sense to me, like saving and reusing tin foil and saran wrap. Instead of making a fresh pot of coffee each morning, she saves a pot and reheats it until she drinks it all. Sometimes, this makes me think that I behave in a wasteful way. Especially in the face of pressing environmental concerns, I have come to admire my grandma's thriftiness because I think her patterns of consumption are less inherently wasteful than the patterns I was raised with. On the other hand, I recognize that her habits around waste were also formed during a period of intense stress and want. I am grateful that growing up I was able to prioritize my education instead of caring for multiple younger siblings or needing a job to contribute directly to family finances.
I am especially interested in learning more about culinary history during the Great Depression. In my AP Seminar class, we do a unit on American food and our essential question is "to what extent is there an authentically American cuisine?" I am hoping to select passages or chapters for them to read to deepen our discussion around this central question. For my honors US history students, I am more excited about reading The Worst Hard Time. I find that many of my students come into class with background knowledge about the Dust Bowl, so I am excited to learn more to hopefully deepen their initial understandings about this event.
Happy belated birthday to your grandmother! 91 is absolutely impressive! I wish her many more. <3
My grandmother also taught my mom to save aluminum foil and other storage containers. It's something I'm in the unconscious habit of as well and only feel it's strange when I'm out in public not throwing things away when others are. ? I'm one of the only people in my family that's perfectly happy to save a pot of coffee until it's gone, though. The longer it's been heating and condensed down, the stronger it is and the more I like it, so saving it over has never really bothered me. ?
I mentioned in my comment how I thought a lot of my grandmother's innate habits born of growing up in/raising a poor farming family and her experiences as a child in the Great Depression had come back around in the recent decades as environmentally conscious habits. I think that with all things there is a middle ground that is best and that while we never want to need to be as frugal as our ancestors had to be, there's a whole lot we can learn from them about how to be frugal for our pocketbooks AND the environment in modern times. There was a lot they had to learn the hard way that we get to learn from them that I'm definitely grateful for.
Your AP Seminar class sounds amazing! ?
I asked my family group chat, and they offered several stories from the Depression. Most of what they had to say involved food. Almost everyone kept chickens and hogs so there would be enough to eat. My great grandpa (who passed away when I was very young) once told my dad that the family would collect wild walnuts when they were in season, then trade them in at a local store for things they couldn't make on their own like coffee, sugar, and flour. The most humorous story was from my great aunt. She said there was no money for women in the community to buy panty hose, so many churches started having separate services for men and women so the women's legs wouldn't be seen.
What most interests me about this period is how Americans eating habits changed. Did different types of food gain or lose popularity during this time? Are any of those trends still holding today?
My parents were very young during the depression. My mom’s family always said they were so poor they didn’t really notice a difference. I always thought that was their way a covering up how bad it really was. My grandmother would make something from every scrap she came across. I remember watermelon jelly. She made quilts using feed sacks. On my dad’s side they had it a little better. They had their own business before it and with hard work and a lot of luck they were able to keep it going. My grandmother’s mother had scratched out a living for her four children by herself. She had arranged for my grandmother to go to college. That would have been apx. 1930. It was always a scandal that my grandmother chose to marry my grandfather instead! I know those years made a lasting impression on my grandmother because she always kept extra canned good “so her family would always be able to eat.” When she passed away there were so many cans of food in her closet that the lids had rusted!
It's always about the stories.
In my family, the story of my grandmother's life -- the stories I was told and the stories I witnessed and have written for myself -- is where our legacy is centered. My grandmother on my mom's side was born in 1930. She was a preteen by the time things started "turning around," but we've often discussed how in poorer parts of the country, many people didn't see much difference between their lives before and during the Depression. My grandmother grew up in a farming family and married into a farming family. I firmly believe she was shaped more by that than the Depression and that a lot of what she did that many would label as having come from the Depression was just the way she lived. Canning, reusing aluminum foil, washing and reusing anything considered "disposable," milking cows (and giving a little to the cat that lived in the barn), killing chickens, hemming and darning clothes to make them last a little longer, turning worn out clothes into quilt squares and rags, having a multi-purpose capsule wardrobe that could be mixed and matched long before it was hip...I could go on. These traits have truly lived on in my family and have even informed how I live because of the impact my grandmother had on my mom. I remember a time when people turned their nose up at some of these things, but I think a lot of it has come back around as ways to be more conscious of our impact on the environment, and I'm grateful I grew up seeing both my grandmother pass on the skills and traits that helped her survive the many decades she had on this earth and my mom turn them into practical skills for a modern world. I don't necessarily credit the Great Depression for how my grandmother lived, but I do think she epitomized the strength of character that was necessary to survive not only the Great Depression but a country farming life of struggle and hardship. That strength of character was honed in those farm houses -- watching her parents scrimp and save to survive a Great Depression, having to take care of herself and her siblings before she was grown when she lost her parents at just 13 years old while there was a war going on, scrimping and saving to feed, clothe, and house a family of eight in the countryside. Not to mention how her life played out through the decades. She was truly a product of that time -- and was able to pass that rugged sense of survival on down her family line. In my family the song is true: country boys -- and girls -- will survive! My grandmother was a rock to our family throughout her life -- but for her age, you never would have known she had survived the Great Depression. You never would have suspected the tragedy that marked the entirety of her life by her smile or the way she lit up a room. I think she learned to survive, live, and smile despite the trials and tribulations from the events that shaped the formative years of her life, and I'll always be grateful to her and the legacy she left behind.
I'm interested in this time period for many reasons. I've always been fascinated by 20th Century History. When I was getting my degrees in history, my focus area was in early 20th Century History. Thinking about it as I write the response, I think my love for the era has to do with the fact that I'm a weird mix of a luddite and early tech adopter. I love technology, but I love analogue just as dearly. The early 20th Century feels like a time stuck between the old and new -- that perfect mix of tradition and progress and innovation. The Great Depression is a reminder of what happens when society flies too close to the sun -- and the ensuing decades are that lesson put into practice, a rebound like no other. From the depths to the heights, this time period has some of the best stories.
For me, it's all about the stories. I look forward to reading books exploring this time period. I've already started reading both and I love that they are written more in the storytelling tradition than a cut-and-dried historical account. I decided to study and get degreed in history because my first history professor in college didn't teach us history -- every class he told us stories from history. I'm always excited any time I get to read or listen to a story and I look forward to exploring and discussing these stories with others.
My maternal grandfather's parents died and he and his siblings were divided up and taken in by various relatives around Anderson County. He never talked about those times and there are only a few rare photos of him as a child. I think that early loss, coupled with growing up in the Depression, made him worry about financial security. He and my grandmother bought the land where he built the house my mom grew up in. He also built a smaller home that he rented out and he always had livestock and a large garden - growing his own food to supplement what he could buy with his paycheck and what he made collecting rent. My mom said that he loved finding a bargain. "I sometimes think he would have bought a truckload of left shoes (not matched in a pair) if the price had been low enough," she would say. My maternal grandmother grew up on a farm in northern Knox County. She still had the Depression Era habit of making do and not wasting anything. She made dresses from flour sacks for my mom and aunt; canned and pickled and otherwise preserved food from the garden, etc.
My paternal grandfather grew up in a mining town near Mascot. When he was old enough, he moved to Knoxville and got a job at the Standard Knitting Mill where his older brother worked. He told stories of borrowing books from the lending library at the mill and bringing them home for my grandmother to read to him by the light of the oil lamp after dinner. That was their entertainment. My paternal grandmother was very good at preserving foods - canning, pickling, drying - and nothing was ever wasted. They always had a vegetable garden. Many of her clothes, even when I was old enough to notice the difference, were homemade. I remember her outcry when my grandfather finally bought a new washing machine to replace their old wringer washer. "But it still works!" she protested as they took the old one away. She also quilted and did other crafts that reused items or found creative uses for natural objects. My grandfather had an old coffee mug that he collected old scraps of soap in. When he wanted to shave, he would use his shaving brush to whip up a bunch of lather. He never purchased shaving cream. As many have already mentioned, both sets of grandparents had the usual stack of empty containers to keep leftovers in. Coffee cans, baby food jars, and other containers were also used to store paint, nails, and other items in my grandfather's tool shed.
Actually, my stepfather is old enough to have been a child during the Depression. He grew up near McMinnville. He still hates to see anything wasted. When he and my mom went out on their first date, she was very nervous and didn't eat much of her dinner. By the end of the meal she was feeling mroe relaxed and ordered dessert when the waiter came to clear their table. My stepfather said, "Well, you didn't eat hardly any of your dinner, I don't know why you need dessert." My mom informed him, "If you can't afford to buy me dessert, then you don't need to ask me out." It has become a family legend. She told me later that he got into the habit of cleaning his plate because of his parents worrying about getting enough to eat when he was a kid and that he had never outgrown the habits from back in the Depression.
I am very interested to learn what experiences were like in other parts of the country, since all my family is from East Tennessee for several generations.
My great grandma grew up during the Great Depression in Wisconsin on a farm and she always would tell us that she was not subject to many of the privations of the Great Depression because they always had enough food.
My grandpa would talk about how during Christmas during the depression he was always excited to get an orange because citrus fruit was a rarity in these times.
I hope to learn more about the day to day of families during the Great Depression and how they learned to survive during this time and the foods that it introduced.
My great grandmother grew up on a farm during the depression and because of this she always told my mom that she was not subject to many of the privations of the Depression because they always had enough food. When the government started introducing price controls on key goods my great grandmother recalled her father coming into some money that allowed him to make improvements to the farm.
My grandfather was a child during the Great Depression and through that he viewed it through that lense. He recalled that things were tough but his parents always found a way to get by. Growing up during the Depression and through World War II his most stark memory is that he received a model train set when the war was over and that's how he knew things were finally going to get better, because this was an expensive purchase at the time. He also would tell us about how his favorite gifts in his stockings at Christmas were oranges and bananas because fruits such as these were rare to him in those times.
I am looking forward to learning more about how the Depression affected individuals eating habits and how they made do during this trying time.