How did urban and rural populations experience Depression food shortages differently?

    How did the fall of agricultural prices for farmers change the way people in the Great Plains grew food?

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    Starting off with the second question, the solution to the dropping farm prices during the time was planting more. With prices going down farmers had to plant more crops to make the same amount of money. The boom that many farmers had seen during World War I had dried up and to make the same amount of money they needed to plant more crops. The worst hard times mentions how farmers would transport their yields to storage sites where their crops from last year were still there often molding. Not only did producing more yield a surplus therefore driving the price down, tearing up the soil in the plains loosened it which contributed to many of the horrific effects of the dust bowl. 

    Rural individuals and urban populations experienced the Depression differently, notably individuals who lived in cities could often resort to bread lines to receive some sustenance for the day, I found it interesting that before the Depression many individuals suggested that breadlines were sort of a tourist attraction where someone from outside the city could come and see men wait for hours to get some bread and then disperse within minutes once it was passed out. The shortages of the Depression were worse for rural americans because many of the services that were provided to the urban poor were unavailable to them. They often had to rely on the charity of churches and other individuals because Hoover did not believe in the government helping the poor out directly instead encouraging relaxation of regulations on business leaders to hopefully remedy the depression. Overall, I think the Worst Hard Time is the more intriguing book to me because I've been learning a lot of things I didn't think about, specifically I loved the chapter about the Russdeutsch and how they took the skills they learned in Russia over to the Great Plains. 

    I was fascinated reading how people treated the breadlines as a sort of entertainment! That was so interesting, and a little heartbreaking, to me.

    I was so fascinated about with the story of the Russdeutsch and their tie to Catherine the Great. 

    The whole aspect of anti-Semitism and the history of the Jews' journey to the US was so interesting to me. It reminds me that anti-Semitism has been around much longer than the conflict we have today--all the way back into biblical times. (I recently finished reading the book of Esther)

    Urban and rural populations experienced differences when it came to food shortages in the Great Depression. First, rural populations were responsible for the massive amounts of food needed for World War I. However, once that stopped, there was too much food left. As a result, prices fell. Farmers believed in the idea that if more crops are grown, more money will be made. Second, while the farmers were experiencing prices fall, urban areas resorted to breadlines in order to get some type of food for the day. Often times, breadlines were open between midnight and 1am in order for men to beg for food. Nothing is more embarrassing than being seen by others begging for food.

    Farmers as most Americans believe that if you create more of a product, you are likely to make more money. However, this does not work in every circumstance. Farmers began to grow more crops at a rapid rate. They used methods that were archaic and instead of allowing the land grow food properly, it ended up destroying the top soil. As a result, the dust bowl began to develop. 

    I agree, the fact that farmers were using ineffective methods was absolutely the leading factor in the Dust Bowl beginning. Obviously the drought cannot be helped, but it certainly would not have been as devastating or resulted in the dust storms without the millions of acres of barren lands with topsoil removed.

    As I read the book I thought of urban and rural differences based on what my parents shared.   My father lived on a farm.  I believe the family did well; I do not ever remember hearing about food shortages.  My mother grew up an urban area and talked about money shortages. 

    What I am thinking about now is the role the German Prisoners of War had in helping with the food supply chain during World War II.  This is of course out of the scope of the book, but also important.  With so many men serving in the war it was the POWS who kept many family farms  and canneries going

    Before I answer the question, I just have to mention how much the last page (second paragraph specifically) of The Worst Hard Times absolutely shattered my heart! Oh my gosh! As a mom of young kids myself that tugged extra hard on my heartstrings. I was expecting to read of loss but not like this - the description felt so vivid, especially George sobbing in the fields by himself, ugh!

    In urban areas the response to food shortages were handled through, oftentimes, extremely generous welfare systems. Breadlines were used often, even before the Depression, and seemed to go one of two directions - either it was just feely given to anyone who seemed to need it (sometimes being abused) or it was too shameful to be utilized due to social norms. Law enforcement was used as distribution for food based on a survey of who needed it and schools became relief centers very quickly, a practice that still seems to carry over today. Schools began providing food, clothing, and other relief resources for students in need because, as we all know, a child whose basic needs are not met certainly cannot be expected to be able to learn.

    In rural areas, many people had emigrated from areas (or descended from people who emigrated from areas) that had experienced hunger and migrated because of it. The response to food shortages and lowered crop prices was simply utilizing what was available - the land. People fed themselves as well as they were able to in different ways, typically through plowing up more of the land and planting even more crops as the prices continued to decline. As prices continued to decline, more land was plowed up in hopes that more plants would equate to enough of an income, but some just abandoned their fields all together which contributed to the blossoming agricultural and weather issues that were occurring. Canning was helpful to those that were able to grow foods that could be preserved and find enough equipment. There are also successful whiskey businesses that popped up in these more rural areas that kept people in good spirits and left them with a drink to wash down their food with. The welfare in rural areas was not as generous as in the urban areas, though, and in some cases disgruntled citizens used different methods to let their need for food be known. 

    Overall, different regions of the country experienced struggles in unique ways.

    How did people experience food shortages differently?  Reading about how the state of New York chose to deal with the shortages of food I thought I knew about.  We have all seen those sad photos of the bread lines.  I never dreamed anyone considered them to be tourist attractions!  The men in these pictures were lured to cities with the promise of a better life because they would be working by the hour rather than working until the job was done like they had back on the farm.  Life changed for them and their opportunities dried up seemingly overnight.  Meanwhile, back on the farm life had always been hard.  The added shortage of cash and the added difficulties of not being able to grow as much made life in rural areas even more difficult.  They were starving but had nowhere to go for help.  No one had any extra to give to anyone else and they had no way of getting any extra.  

    The fall of prices for agricultural products only made life worse.  The one thing farmers in the Great Plains had was land so their natural reaction was to work harder and do more.  On principle that makes sense, work harder and do better.  This time it was exactly the opposite.  The more they worked the more they destroyed their lives.  What was meant for good ended up bringing disaster!  This disaster was widespread and long lasting.  They no longer had anything to sell no matter what the price and they had ruined  the one thing they had, land.  The only good that came from this disaster was the new desire for knowledge.  The government stepped in and research on a grand scale began.  The goal became prevention of such disasters.

    As everyone has already stated, the experience of the food shortages differed greatly. "Location, location, location," as they say in real estate. It would seem that the rural communities would be better off because they could grow their own food, but that is hard to do in a drought. What was especially shocking was the government's knowledge that people were going hungry, yet they let the grain sit in storage and rot rather than buy it to help feed people. The frustrated response of the famers to President Hoover's refusal to buy their grain (Worst, p.87) is understandable. As I read about the farmers burning the railroad trestles, I pictured mobs with literal pitchforks and torches. 

    For those who may be teaching this topic in elementary school, here are a couple of books that would make good read-alouds to share with your students. One is Leah's Pony by Elizabeth Freidrich, which includes the foreclosure sales and auctions of the time and how neighbors helped out by bidding on items. The other is more of a science text about getting officials in D.C. to understand the scope of the problem with the dust storms and how the farmers were eventually aided in choosing better methods to preserve the land while still using it to produce crops. Erosion: How Hugh Bennett Saved America’s Soil and Ended the Dust Bowl by Darcy Pattison

    I forgot to say, it introduces Hugh Hammond Bennett (main character in Erosion) on p.125 of The Worst Hard Time.

    Rural communities had been "making do" for many years. I particularly appreciated the narrative of the hog killing days. Though eating brains completely grosses me out (my husband just brought home a hog's head to cut off what meat would be on it--more than you may realize. I am unable to eat the sausage because the very idea makes me sick--please don't enlighten me of all that is in processed hot dogs, sausage, etc. :) ). I remember when I was a young girl, my pastor spoke of his life in Texas; someone came and milked their cow and stole the milk. My pastor's father said that he wished that the people had asked--but in a way, he did not begrudge him.  I also think of To Kill a Mockingbird--when Scout talks about the cultural acceptance of the era: "Finders were keepers unless title was proven. Plucking an occasional camellia, getting a squirt of hot milk from Miss Maudie Atkinson's cow on a summer day, helping ourselves to someone's scuppernongs was part of our ethical culture, but money was different" (Lee--chapter 4).

    So, the farmers did not "feel" it as soon as the urbanites did. Once the reality of the deprivation hits--and that wheat would no longer be the cash cow it had been, farmers totally seemed to forget the idea of supply & demand. Instead of not planting, they uprooted more and more of the Prairie--causing a greater deficit in the protection of the soil. (I am amazed at how culpable the US government is in the Dust Bowl. Their, what we would now consider ridiculous, advice about agriculture shocks me. The grow more wheat--when absolutely none is needed. 

    It does, indeed, seem like the perfect storm was brewing! 

    Urban populations had easier access to government aid while rural populations began to grow more crops more quickly. Farmers were forced to plow up native grasslands, which is one of the contributing factors to the upcoming Dust Bowl. They were also responsible for not only providing food during World War I, but also for the growing bread lines and soup kitchens in urban America. Because of the demand and low prices, they had to forgo responsible practices such as crop rotation and overgrazing. This chain of events is one of the reasons why some people became more critical of capitalism. Despite there being an abundance of crops, prices continue to decline and farmers are pressured to keep growing to make enough income to survive. Who would have thought that working harder would ensure punishment instead of reward?

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    The differences between how urban and rural populations experienced food shortages was quite different.

    The rural farmers were responsible for the growth of food. With farming conditions declining rapidly it grew harder for them to grow the food that both the urban and rural areas needed. I would say the rural people seemed to be more resourceful in that they started canning, trying to grow smaller crops to sustain their family, and they took to bartering. In an attempt to make more money farmers put more demand on the land, thus depleting the resources and contributing to the Dust Bow.

    The urban areas depended on food lines. It almost got to be a reliance for some because they wouldn't go out looking for work. 

    Until I read chapter 3 I never realized that in all the images I saw of food lines, I never saw females standing in the line. I chalked it up as the many going out trying to provide for his family and not really thinking much further than that.

    I also found it interesting that the start of the School Lunch Movement was a result of the Depression and an answer for how to feed school aged children.

    - Shannon Minner

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